Former President Jimmy Carter receives one more award -- this time for his writing. NPR's Steve Inskeep talks to his grandson Jason Carter.

Steve Inskeep: Why was [Jimmy Carter] an outlier, as you called him? Kai Bird: He was an outlier in all sorts of ways. He grew up in south Georgia playing as a child with African-Americans.

NPR's Steve Inskeep talked to Jason Carter in September, who at that time, reflected on what it was like growing up in the shadows of his grandfather, former President Jimmy Carter.

STEVE INSKEEP, HOST: Jimmy Carter, who lies in state today at the Capitol, was a small-D Democratic leader. That means embracing debate and criticism, which Carter did during his presidency and ...

Steve Inskeep: Why was [Jimmy Carter] an outlier, as you called him? Kai Bird: He was an outlier in all sorts of ways. He grew up in south Georgia playing as a child with African-Americans.

STEVE INSKEEP, HOST: We are expecting more than a week of events to remember the life of Jimmy Carter, who's died at the age of 100. LEILA FADEL, HOST: President Biden made a statement about his ...

Steve Inskeep: Why was [Jimmy Carter] an outlier, as you called him? Kai Bird: He was an outlier in all sorts of ways. He grew up in south Georgia playing as a child with African-Americans. He was the ...

Steve Inskeep: Why was [Jimmy Carter] an outlier, as you called him? Kai Bird: He was an outlier in all sorts of ways. He grew up in south Georgia playing as a child with African-Americans.